与心理学家探讨怎样与你的孩子沟通抑郁症与自杀


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Talk with your child about suicide
Dr. Stephen Cheung is a Professor of the Department of Psychology at Azusa Pacific University (APU), Azusa, CA. CAAOC橙县华人家长微信群讨论记录整理

Stephen: 听到又一个年轻人自杀身亡很难过。实在是太多了!!! 谢谢你们的关注和分享。
是的, 我们与孩子的关系非常重要, 虽然我们必须克服代沟和文化差异。另外足够的睡眠/休息, 社交, 体育活动, 对于孩子的身心健康至关重要。
就像你们所说, 学业成功, 不保证你能找到工作, 或者快乐生活。全面发展(身体, 心理, 智力, 社交, 精神, 灵性)决定人的一生是否幸福。 

西西:  我有个问题, 像自杀这样的事情, 能不能和孩子讨论, 能讲多少, 能和多大的孩子讲?

 Stephen: 问得好! 与孩子建立良好关系, 才是聪明的做法, 才能就那些重要的情绪健康问题给孩子指导。根据孩子年龄及成熟程度, 与他们讨论抑郁症和自杀, 不是一件坏事; 但是父母必须知道自己在讲什么。学习关于抑郁症及自杀知识是第一步。
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请浏览以上网站, 需要时寻求专业帮助。
你和孩子谈话的主要目的是让孩子知道你爱他/她, 无论何时, 只要他/她有困难, 随时可以来找你。
至于是否现在与他/她谈自杀, 取决于你和孩子的关系亲近程度; 孩子的成熟程度, 年龄, 你们家情况以及你生活中的其他因素。
请用智慧决定什么时候讨论。

西西: 作为父母, 我们要多学习。了解得越多, 与孩子沟通效果越好。

Stephen: 是的, 知识就是力量。一般13至19岁的青少年, 已经能够理解你所讲的道理。
从孩子小的时候就开始关注他们的情绪, 精神健康是聪明的做法。就像往银行里存钱, 你以后会获得利息。

西西: 会不会孩子有样学样, 本来没有自杀倾向的孩子, 听多了, 看多了, 就跟着学?

Stephen: 这全在于你怎样与孩子沟通。尽量不要罗嗦。讲话注意方式, 要适合孩子年龄。比如对青少年, 如果他在学校学到自杀这个题目, 趁机和他讨论一番。
在你和你的孩子讨论时, 适当地让他/她知道你很爱他/她。

西西: 敏感和爱是我们与孩子讨论这些心理问题时最重要的两点。

Stephen: 是的。你需要和孩子有良好的关系, 你需要一个和谐气氛, 孩子才能听得进去。关系和气氛的储备, 是从孩子很小很小时就开始的。

西西: 越小年纪, 越能够建立完全的信任关系。所以三岁之前的孩子, 一定要在自己身边, 那是一个Bonding 时期。

Stephen : 是的, 这是雏形期, 正是形成粘连的时期。
正如有人说, 我们家长肩负着多重职务(如, CEO, CFO...). 这是一件多么艰难的工作, 而且我们文化不同,   我们和孩子间可能有代沟, 我们需要学会跳过这些障碍, 了解美国文化, 进而了解孩子为什么挣扎。比如, 在家里生活于中美两种文化中, 而在外则是美国主流文化, 这本身就是一个巨大挑战; 试图按照家长的期待, 得高分, 挤进名校给他们造成巨大压力。

西西: 在孩子信任你之后, 沟通这些问题对他们是有好处的; 对于情绪已经有异样表现的孩子, 更要尽快沟通, 防不测于未然。
我记得你说过: 一般人认为与孩子谈自杀使事情更糟, 这一观点是错误的。事实是, 如果他要自杀, 友善的谈话能让他打开心扉; 如果他没有自杀的想法, 与他沟通, 也许能够预防今后发生。父母与孩子无法沟通时, 一定要找专业人士帮助。

Stephen: 是的, 发觉事情不好, 马上找专业人士帮助, 千万别耽误了。 

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Stephen :

I'm so sad to hear about another suicide among our young people!!! It was one too many!!! Thanks for your caring and insightful sharing.

Yes, our relationship with our children is crucial despite the possible generational and acculturation gap between us. Enough sleep/rest, social outlet and physical exercises are some of the critical factors to their health and mental health.

Like some of you said, academic success doesn't guarantee a good job or a happy life. A whole-person development (e.g., physical, emotional, intellectual, social, moral, spiritual, etc.) would help them for life.

西西:

最近几起自杀事件让我们震惊。我们一直在思考怎样帮助我们的孩子身心健康地成长, 预防自杀的发生。我有个问题, 像自杀这样的事情, 能不能和孩子讨论, 能讲多少, 能和多大的孩子讲?

Stephen:
Great questions! It is always wise to have a good relationship with your child so you can educate them about important emotional health issues. Depending on the maturity and age of the child, talking about depression and suicide is not a bad thing, but the parent has to know what s/he is talking about. So learning more about depression and suicide is the first step. Here are some links:

Suicide Prevention Online Resources:


http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/suicide-a-major-preventable-mental-health-problem-fact-sheet/index.shtml 

http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

http://www.sptsusa.org/pdfs/Talking_to_your_Kids_About_Suicide.pdf

https://www.afsp.org/coping-with-suicide-loss/where-do-i-begin/helping-children-understand

http://www.take5tosavelives.org/

Please learn the information from these websites. Go for more training and always seek professional help when needed.
 

The main purpose of your talk with your child is to let him/her know that you love him/her and s/he can go to you any time when s/he is in trouble.

 

Whether to talk with your child about suicide now depends on your relationship with him/her, his/her maturity, his/her age, your home and life situations, and other factors in your life.

 

Be wise in your decision and the timing of your discussion.

 

When you’re in doubt about what to do, consult your local professionals.

 

西西:
为父母, 我们了解得越多, 孩子沟通效果越好

Stephen:
Yes, knowledge is power. An average teenager (age 13-19) will comprehend what you want to convey to him/her about depression and suicide.

Paying attention to their emotional and moral health from a very young age is wise. It's like putting money in the bank and you'll reap the interest plus the capital after many years of saving.

西西:
会不会孩子有样学样,
本来没有自杀倾向的孩子, 多了, 多了, 就跟着学?

Stephen:
It depends on how you talk with your child. Try not to nag. Just have a sensible conversation with the child at an appropriate age. For example, if your teenager learns about a suicide in his/her school, talk with your teenager about it then.

In your conversation and as often as appropriate, let your child know you love and care for him/her.

西西:
Sensitivity and love are the keys to talk with our kids about those emotional issues.

Stephen:
Yes, they are. You need relationship/emotional capital with your child so they will listen to you. Build a good relationship with them at a very very young age.

西西:
越小年纪, 越能够建立完全的信任关系
所以三岁之前的孩子, 一定要在自己身边, 那是一个Bonding

Stephen:
Yes, those formative years are years for building attachment between you and your child.

As someone said, we play many roles to our children (e.g., chauffeur, CFO, etc.). It isn't easy especially in a culture that is different from ours; there can be an acculturation gap as well as a generation gap between our children and us. We need to learn to jump over these barriers by learning more about the American culture and by understanding what our children are going through. For instance, living in two cultures--Chinese culture at home and the mainstream American culture outside of home--can be extremely taxing and challenging for them. Trying to meet our expectations of earning good grades and going to certain prestigious universities puts enormous pressure on them.

西西:
在孩子信任你之后, 沟通这些问题对他们是有好处的; 对于情绪已经有异样表现的孩子, 更要尽快沟通,
不测于未然 

I like what you said before: "A large number of people believe in that talking will make things worse. In fact, if our children are inclined to commit suicide, talking understandingly with them might open them up and they might let us help them; if they don't intend to end their lives, talking with them will hopefully prevent it from ever happening. In case the conversation doesn't go well, seek some professional help and support as soon as you can."

Stephen: Thanks, 西西